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Greenwald: If It's So Legal, U.S. Should Allow Court Challenge

And so the dance continues. We are already seeing media bobbleheads reading their scripts, not even going near the actual issues as we debate the constitutionality of a massive fishing expedition. Here's Greenwald on Morning Joe, via Raw Story:

    Appearing on MSNBC Monday morning, Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald smacked down "White House talking points" he said were being repurposed by "Morning Joe" co-host Mika Brzezinski, saying the National Security Agency's spying programs are flatly unconstitutional and that her defense of them was misleading.

    "Quickly, I just want an answer yes or no," Brzezinski began. "Isn't it the case that reviewing of emails or any wiretapping cannot take place without an additional warrant from a judge and a review? It's not like there's haphazard probing into all of our personal emails. Can we put this into context so we understand exactly what's going on?"

    Greenwald didn't even hesitate, blowing past Mika's request for a one-word response.

    "Yeah, I'll put it into context for you: the White House talking points that you're using are completely misleading and false. The whole point of what the Bush administration did when it disregarded and violated the FISA law, and then when Congress on a bipartisan basis enacted a new surveillance law in 2008 was to enable the NSA to read emails between people in the United States and people outside of the United States without having to first go to a FISA court and get a warrant. The only time individual warrants are needed is when two people are both within the United States and are both American citizens."

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    "The ACLU and other groups have been trying for five years now to go into court and challenge the constitutionality of the surveillance law by claiming that it violates the Fourth Amendment. We do have a Constitution in the United States regarding searches and seizures. The U.S. government has successfully blocked any challenge on the grounds that we keep it a secret, who it is that we eavesdrop on, and since we keep it a secret no one person can say they've been eves dropped on, and therefore have no standing in court to challenge the law."

    "So if you want to talk about legality, the Obama Justice Department has repeatedly blocked courts from ruling on the legality, mainly the constitutionality of this law," he concluded. "If they think it's so legal, let there be a challenge in court."